EPISODE 29: Behind the Scenes with Self Care + Biz Bestie Support: An Interview with Laura Russell

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Emily Carter  00:04

Hi, I'm Emily. Welcome to From hustle to hell. Yes, the podcast for entrepreneurs and business owners who don't want to do business the way it's always been done. Our businesses are tools for personal freedom, also incredible tools for creating the world we want to live in. And in this podcast, this is where I share insights and interviews on entrepreneurship for small business owners craving a GPS. So poppin let's joyride to a sustainable, profitable business that does more than make money. We'll talk about how you can become a catalyst for what you wish existed, but haven't been able to create your business.

Emily Carter  01:01

I met Laura Russell of joyful uprising through a copywriting program that we were both taking. We ended up in a breakout room together and we really connected so when Laura asked if we can be accountability buddies and the program, it was an easy yes. Little did I know how integral this new connection would become. Over the course of several months, Laura and I would meet and share our copy wins and help each other when we got stuck to each other on when things got existential. And almost a year later. Here we are, even though the program is has ended. We're still meeting every week. And in this interview, I'm so excited to share Laura's genius approach to managing the ups and downs of life and business, how having a business bestie and each other has helped our businesses and kind of a lot more. Laura Russell is the creator of the radical soul care system, which is a unique blend of science, psychology and spirituality designed with the mission of helping freedom seeking go getters slow down, be nicer to themselves and heal their inner blocks so they can start living on their terms. She is a certified transformational living coach, most known for helping her clients manage the sticky thoughts, feelings and emotions, holding them back from the changes they crave in their lives. Within her holistic wellness coaching, she is your soft place to land as you navigate the fears and emotions that surface on your journey to loving yourself. It is my absolute pleasure to introduce you to Laura. Laura, welcome to from hustle to hell yes, I am really excited about this conversation today. So welcome, welcome, welcome. Glad to be here. So I know that I just read your bio to everyone. But I really want to dig in a little more to what your business is. And also why you started it.

Laura Russell  02:58

Yes, so my business is it's a online wellness coaching basically, for women. And it's really geared towards helping them live the life that they want. And I know that sounds totally cheesy and generic, but it's really we only have one life, we might as well squeeze as much joy and as much out of it as we can. So I really helped them to do that through a mixture of different types of offerings and science, self help and spirituality. Kind of like my jam.

Emily Carter  03:34

I love that you know how I feel about adding more joy. So that was awesome. So why did you start your business? How did it get started? Where did this come from? For you?

Laura Russell  03:44

Yeah, so I started it because I hated my job about I guess 2017 I worked in corporate at one of the largest only employers here in Northwest Arkansas. And I was on a support team. And so they just keep moving you around. And it just for the longest time I had very much I was the the typical overachiever and promoted all the time, you know, just consistently took a lot of it was a it was my identity. I mean, there were really it really was because I was good at it. I didn't really seek it out. It just found me. And then I no longer I no longer liked it. The final straw for me though, was when 75% of my team was let go around me. Wow. And we still had the same amount of work to do we still we had new leadership that didn't know what they were doing. As they can happen as can happen. And I was like you This is not worth it, this fake stability that I feel like I have is no longer stable. I need to find something else that I enjoy. Because this isn't worth it anymore. Yeah. So I went to my first coach as a career coach. And as I started working with her, I was like, Ah, I think this is what I want to do. Like, I want to be a coach, not a career coach. But this is, this is what I want to be when I grow up. And so I do what I do, and I start researching different training programs and, and I just throw myself into it, like, full on. As I have a tendency to like you now. Yeah. And as I started learning more about how to coach, I started learning more about myself. Mm hmm. In a way that I had never done before. Like, ever. And I didn't realize that I didn't really know myself. Like, because I just, it's just how I lived. And as I started, like, during that first training program, it was like intense, and really dug in deep to find like, my triggers my my likes, my dislikes, my needs my boundaries, like, oh, juicy stuff. That is like more.

Emily Carter  06:28

Yeah, all that stuff that

Laura Russell  06:32

is so necessary. Yeah. And, um, and as I, as I started doing that, I was like, I think this is what I like really want to help women do is to figure themselves out.

Emily Carter  06:49

Yeah, I love how you're talking about exploring, coaching, and going through the process of doing all of that work yourself. Because in order to coach you really have to do your homework, like you have to go through what your clients are going to go through, in order to walk them through that process. If you don't do that, all you're doing is running off of other people's platitudes and advice. And you can't actually help somebody navigate their own process if you haven't gotten through it yourself. So I applaud you for recognizing that. That's amazing. So in this process of learning how to do coaching and finding your own sense of self, and balance, and identity, what are some of the things that really stood out to you during your process of doing that, and what were maybe like one or two key takeaways that you felt had the most powerful impact for you.

Laura Russell  07:42

So probably, so one of them is releasing the shoulds. And I know that sounds kind of vague, but it's it's like, as women as people in general, but especially women, there are so many expectations put on us. Yeah, and that we, like, we absorb them. And so as you do your work, and as you do those things, it's like, it's absolutely necessary to release those expectations and those shoulds so that you can find your own, like your own way. So that would be one of them. And then the other one is resilience. Mm hmm. absolutely critical that you have resilience, and I know it's like, need to know who you are. You need to be able to take care of yourself, do all of those things to really enjoy your life. But if you don't have the capability and the skills and that's all it is is a skill to bounce back from life and, and all the chaos and messiness that it is. Oh, wait, I'll knock you down. Yeah, yeah, just having those skills just really makes it easier. I call it bounce back ability. Like,

Emily Carter  09:17

Yeah, I've heard it described in some places, as you know, when moss is, is well watered and healthy. If you step on it, it'll bounce back. And that that is a kind of like, visual that I have, you know how I love nature metaphors. And so like that metaphor really hits home for me, because it's like, oh, yeah, I can step on it. But it just comes right back. Right. Like and it doesn't even hesitate. It does what it needs to do to return to its form. Right. Yeah. So and this is this is amazing, because this is also where we have a lot of overlap in the way that we look at how we help people. And resilience is such a huge piece of what I think we're all All craving more of right now. Because in order to flourish and thrive, we have to be able to be resilient. And like you said, it's a skill. It's like a muscle that you have to exercise again and again and again. Right?

Laura Russell  10:12

Yes. And that's kind of and that also goes into like, the other thing is the growth mindset. Yeah. And being able to know that so many of these, so many of these things that, that, that I teach. That's, that's all they are, is skills. And you don't have to beat yourself up because you don't know them already. Most of us do not, we're not taught them. Yeah, like our parents don't

Emily Carter  10:41

wasn't part of the curriculum. You know, it was it was a model where we're all starting from the same place, and kind of feeling around in the dark for what's going to work. And having a guide on that journey, I can see how that would be really helpful. Especially somebody who's who's lived through it. So not to change gears entirely. What are some of your the your favorite books that have informed your business? Either from a professional context? Like as a life coach? What are some of your favorite life coaching books? Or from the standpoint of like running your business? What are some what are some books that have maybe guided you on that journey?

Laura Russell  11:19

Yeah. Um, so I would say the first one is, it's a really simple read. It's called the crossroads of should and must do not remember the name of the author. We can't Yeah, yeah. And it, but it looks like and it reads like a kid's book. Okay. It's, it's a story. And it's, it has a lot of really amazing visuals. And it really dives into that, that world of should and must. And, like the shoulds, releasing them and figuring out what your masks are, like, what are your masks because we all have them. And they're all different. And the second one is burnout by Emily, and a million Nagurski think that's their name. So yes, classic. So that was probably one of the biggest hurdles and learning experiences for me was my journey with burnout, as you know, yeah. And that's one of the other things that I really work with women on. And I love doing it one on one is helping them figure out what those signs are beforehand. And stopping it before it happens. Because it is a hell of a lot easier to like, change gear than it is to heal from it. Because man, when you hit it, it hits you. And that book was like that game changer. With my journey on burnout has so many great tips and tricks, and like somatic exercises and ways of dealing with emotions, and just all of it. Yeah,

Emily Carter  13:15

brilliant. Brilliant. Those are. Those are, I'm gonna check those out. Books are my love language. I love I love hearing what other books people recommend. And also sometimes what books didn't resonate with them, because that can also be really interesting. But so thank you for sharing those. You know, I think that over the last year you know, we met we met all coming up on a year, I think yeah. And over the last 12 months, I've gotten to see the the behind the scenes of you growing your business as you have mine. And I'm wondering what are a couple of really important things that you've either learned or realize over the last year? And what impact did those have? And let's dig into what that has been like for you.

Laura Russell  14:03

Yeah, so number one is small actions. So many people think that you have to take these big leaps in these big huge steps. And a lot of the pressure that we put on ourselves to take those big actions and keep us from taking action, any action at all. And the biggest thing that has helped me over this last year is being able to take those small actions because a it helps build your courage muscle. Yeah. And and helps you or it helped me to build the confidence in those new skills because I'm a new business owner. Even though I had coaching for four years. I really didn't start and as you know, I didn't really start full time coaching until last year when I got laid off. So um So those small actions that I was able to take, as I dealt with single warming, and healing from a toxic work environment, and all the other things that you know about, yeah, those small actions really helped me to build my business foundation without stressing myself out to the point of like, What the hell did I do? Yeah,

Emily Carter  15:31

you know, one of the things that leads to, to being overwhelmed in business isn't necessarily, that we have all of these clients coming in, that can be overwhelming. But most overwhelming is all the stuff that's happening in the background, all of the little things that you think you need to be doing, and breaking those things down into just, you know, what all I need to do this week is this one piece of that. So when I think about being consistent, for example, that's one of the things that can create overwhelm, is when you think about, oh, my gosh, I have to write like, 52 emails this year to my email list, right? Like, it sounds like a lot. But then when you drill down into, well, I only have to write one this week, right? That can help with that sense of, of how big the task really is. And one of the things that I think helps with that as well is, find the stuff that feels easy to you, you know, there are so many tactics out there, and none of them is you don't have to do all of them, you just have to find a few that feel good to be doing so that you can be consistent with actually doing them. If you hate something and you dread it, you won't you're not gonna want to do it. You're not gonna do it. Yeah. And even taking those little steps is not going to get rid of that dread. And it's not going to keep you consistent. So I hear you on those little steps, for sure. Well, I'm breaking that down.

Laura Russell  16:58

And I'm really sorry, I have a I interrupt. Go for it. And going back to what you just said, If you don't love it, you're not going to do it. That's what if you think about why we become business owners, this being an entrepreneur and a business owner is not friggin easy. Part, it's way easier to be an employee. Yeah, it is so much easier. And why would we go through the list of all those things that goes into being a business owner, if we're not doing the thing that we love?

Emily Carter  17:36

Yeah, I talked about this as like how, how starting a business can be so triggering. It will bring up any, any insecurity that you have any big T or little T trauma that you've ever experienced. And we all have that stuff. It's kind of surface it again and again and again. And one of the things that I think has has helped is not just pursuing the stuff, that's easy, but the stuff that's really hard, you have to look it in the eye. And you really have to figure out how am I going to deal with this for the long term. And it gets back to the resilience, like what we were talking about earlier, that bounce back ability, when that stuff comes up. The goal is to move through it as gracefully and efficiently as possible. You know what I mean? Like when you get right down to it, you've got to figure out what are the practices that I need to be honing so that this can like move through me a little more gracefully and a little more quickly, every time. Because it's gonna come up again, and again. And again. You know, like if you've ever experienced impostor syndrome, you might experience it one time, but you're probably going to experience it multiple times throughout the course of your business growth. And that's why we have to find practices that build our resilience for that and their practices for a reason. Because if we don't keep that muscle strong, it it atrophies. And then the next time it comes up, we don't we aren't as ready and prepared to cope with it and doesn't mean that we have to devote all of our time to building that resilience, but just having moments where we know, Okay, it's time for me to practice this part of my resilience practice.

Laura Russell  19:16

Well, and it's and that's the other thing about resilience is like, you don't have to set aside time to do it. It is literally how you how you do things. Like it is taking the steps and adjusting the way in which you do things.

Emily Carter  19:35

Yeah. And that and, and figuring out how you're sort of talking yourself through that process too. is a big one.

Laura Russell  19:45

Lots of self talking going on with resilience.

Emily Carter  19:49

You know, one of the things that I think has helped me build resilience is creating a community of support. And when I think about community of support, you know in the big Getting of my business that looked like leaning really heavily on my partner and my close friends here locally, geographically. And what I realized was that my stress in my business and sharing that with them, was actually creating a lot of stress for them. And that was that was manifesting as stress in our relationship. Right? It was, it was like this weird dynamic of like, here, let me give you all of my stress. Now I feel better, but you feel stressed out, right? Which isn't really fair, and we shouldn't really be, we shouldn't really be doing that, to the people who are close to us, they're there to support us. But at the same time, they can't be the only support that we have. And so then I started looking online, and I found some some online groups that were really helpful and helped me to process that stuff in a different way. That was not putting that pressure inside of my personal relationships. And then I met you and realized why everyone talks about their business bestie how important that support is. Because for me, one of the things that has multiplied my ability to be resilient in my business, and to make it through that really hard stuff is having you to talk to every week. And so we meet regularly every week, let's dive into what it means to design business. Bestie, you know, yeah, at this time, every week, well, we're recording this. So I met I met you, Laura through Raisa Corkins copy confidence society, we were both there to learn how to write copy for our businesses. And one of the things that I love about Marissa is she has such a strong community. And it's so it feels so good to be part of her community. And one of the most amazing things that came from that was meeting you in one of our breakout groups. So we were working on writing copy in this course, and we just clicked and decided that it would be great for our accountability to continue to meet. So it was your idea

Laura Russell  22:09

that I needed it so badly. So that is one of the things that like for me is accountant, I am not the best at internal accountability. I really need someone that's the external accountability to kind of keep me like a Laura. Hey, you have to do this. No. And, um, and that's what I was, I was trying to think about, like, as I was thinking through this morning, I was like, how did I meet Emily? Other than through Marissa? Like, I remembered obviously, through Maria sets thing, and that it was through working in copy. But I couldn't remember if it was a breakout group or whatever. So I'm glad that you remembered. And I think I remember at first it was definitely over just we were just reviewing coffee. And then we started digging into each other's businesses and and riffing off of like, okay, this is what I'm doing how, and kind of getting ourselves out of our little bubbles. Mm hmm. I think that right there is like one of the hugest things that one of the hugest benefits of having a business bestie. Yeah, is like you find someone that you just really clicked with on a personal level. As Emily, she's just amazing, as you know, but like, and we just have so many things in common. And as we started, you know, continuing meeting every week, we discovered more and more of those things that we had in common. But her her perspective on things helped me to be like, okay, yes, I'm on track. Yes, this makes sense. And oh, my God, you know, how many different messages and the messaging and the different offers? And how many different experiments that I have went through?

Emily Carter  24:11

Many, and I get to experience them through you, you know, so I get to I get to hear all of the gory details about what worked and what didn't, you know what I mean? And that's been a huge benefit to me, because I can see how I might do that in my own business and can kind of do a thought experiment, through learning through you, and vice versa. You know, one of the things that I that I think about is unique to a business bestie is that there isn't a there isn't a power differential. Right? Where colleagues, right and CO conspirators even though we're working on very different things, we aren't connected in any other way except through the fact that we're interested in pursuing our business on a similar path, right? And so when I think about how fortunate it was that we, that we clicked and were able to continue to meet, and to this day are still meeting every week.


And, you know, I think part of what

Emily Carter  25:16

helped us do that was that we had some similarities that were really important, I think and creating that sense of mutual benefit, because that's what the that's sort of what helped us continue. Right. I can, I can adore you. But if you were a lot further ahead in your business, it would be hard to maintain that even that even mutual benefit, agreed, you know, and the fact that we that we want to pursue our business in similar ways, with similar methodologies and strategies, not necessarily tactics, but certainly the overarching strategy is very similar, I think also helped make it possible for us to continue to do this and continue to benefit from that. Right.

Laura Russell  26:02

Yeah. Because if we were completely going down completely different paths, that that each of us getting something out of it, other than just the relationship? Yeah, it definitely would have been different. Yeah. But it's been helpful for me, because Emily is just a tad bit further on the journey than me. Not a whole lot, a whole lot. Like she said, if she was too far down, I guarantee you, it would be triggering my imposter syndrome like no other. But she's just far enough ahead. That that I'm like, oh, that's what that might look like. But yeah, it gives me something to picture in my head of like, there's light at the end of the tunnel.

Emily Carter  26:55

There always is, you know, and it really takes knowing someone personally, I think on a personal level, who's done it, in order to make it seem doable for you, right, this is why representation is so important, right? Because without being able to see ourselves in that space, without having a model for that, it's very, very hard to think that it's possible. And that's in a lot of different ways. I think one of the reasons why having a business bestie can be so helpful to you know, is because you can see in each other's wins, how how you fit into that to, you know, like, as in your own business, the wins that you have. You know, I think also one of the things that that helps to make a really solid business bestie relationship is that trust and psychological safety, and the fact that we're collaborators, we're not competing with each other. So we're both coaches. And we both have very similar ideas about coaching and the topics that we work on. But we're serving very, very different audiences

Laura Russell  28:02

completely. I mean, if you think about yours, you are focused primarily on business, not necessarily on just creating your business, but on how to do it in an essential way. Yeah. Mine is on life. Yes, business is part of it. But like, it is literally on just how we can enjoy our life more. And there's a lot of the same tactics that we are a lot of the same ways that we that we go about it. Yeah, but totally different target market. Mm

Emily Carter  28:43

hmm. And I think that that, you know, along with being collaborators, and maybe you have some, some more ideas about this, but you know, I, in thinking about how I've heard business besties talked about, sometimes it's because they were like us, and they were in a program and they really clicked together, like maybe they were in a mastermind group or something like that, where they got to know each other better, and just wanted to continue to connect more. But also, I've heard of, of business, besties, doing things like going in together and investing on resources, like hiring a VA and stuff like that. And that's not anything I've ever done. But I find that to be a really interesting way to continue to have that collaborative piece, regardless of whether or not you are in the same space anymore. Right. So even beyond business, I think that we would continue to have a friendship, right. And if at any time there was a huge differential, if there wasn't that mutual benefit anymore, we could still collaborate in other ways, right? Oh, totally. Yeah. So I've just been thinking about like, oh, there's so many ways to do this business bestie thing right now that I'm thinking about it. So I have some ideas about about what It benefits have surprised me most about having you as a business bestie. But I'd love to hear from you what those benefits have been for you.

Laura Russell  30:08

Um, first of all kept me on track. As you know, I tend to squirrel a lot. Do and it also like, as I've gone through this so many different personal shifts this last year. Yeah. I mean, so many. It's our our relationship has kept me grounded and focused on my business, it would have been so easy to lose track. And having those little check ins every week where I'm like, okay, Emily, here's where I'm at. And, and that most of the time, I'm coming back and going okay, Laura. Different than last week?

Emily Carter  31:06

Like yes, yes, yes. Yes. What changed?

Laura Russell  31:09

Yeah. And then I go through the process. And she's like, Oh, okay, that makes sense. And it usually is like, something that comes up comes about from one of our, from a discussion that we've had that like, make something click in my brain? Because it's getting outside of my little bubble. Because being a solopreneur, in my house, by myself, when I'm used to being part of a team, yeah. Because through my entire corporate career, it was part of team always collaborating together to create something. So having you, even though we're completely different, like, we're in completely different industries, all of those things, not industries,

Emily Carter  31:59

but you know, and, yeah, we have very different niches, we serve very different people, which is yes,

Laura Russell  32:03

it, it helped me to get back into that groove. And get out of my bubble. So that I could see the full picture. And not just my narrow little view. That like, like, I know, I got this, like, this is exactly the way it's going to be. And I'm like, Oh, you did a test that check? Yeah. So that would be one of the benefits from from our relationship. And just having the safe space. To be myself. And, you know, some of our meetings, some of our meetings, yes, we talked about business, but we will talk about life a lot. And, and just being able to connect on a personal level with someone. Outside of, you know, my partner or my kids, you know, my, my friends has been very helpful. And it's just that safe connection. Yeah. Let's see, I think I would say those are two of the primary ones. Just getting your viewpoint on things. Your brain is like,

Emily Carter  33:31

I call it the Rolodex brain for a reason because it just like stores stuff. And it has to come out at some point. Like, oh, yeah,

Laura Russell  33:46

that's helpful. Thank you.

Emily Carter  33:49

Oh, my gosh, I love that, you know, some of the things that have surprised me most that I didn't know that I needed, right. The first one is how, how important having someone who actually understands what you've been doing in your business, who's like, been there along with you to celebrate and commiserate with, right? And how powerful that experience if I really actually see you has been in terms of like, all of all of the conversations that we've had, being able to walk away from that and feel like I just feel seen and heard and how important that is, especially now, because I don't know how many other people are feeling this way. But I feel like my world has gotten a little smaller than it used to be and smaller than I want it to be. And being able to have a connection that's regularly occurring, where I get to feel seen and heard by someone who isn't living with me or I'm not seeing all you know, like in person all the time has been like such a great experience for me and Running a business is actually so much lonelier than I thought, like, I knew it was hard and kind of isolating. But especially over the last two years, I think that that has been amplified in ways that have irrevocably changed the way that we do business and the way we feel inside of our businesses at any given time. You know, I think, right now, it's, it's spring in Indiana, and the weather is all over the place. And I feel like that in my business, sometimes I'm like, in the morning, it'll be all sunshine outside, because springtime is my time. And the morning is my favorite time of day. And then, like, by mid afternoon, like the storm clouds have gathered, and I'm starting to feel a lot less confident in what I'm doing. And so having someone like you to celebrate and commiserate with, has been just crucial to my staying engaged. The other thing that surprised me is that, you know, I'm somebody who loves to live in my brain, love that space. Right? And, and being required to actually verbalize and communicate, what I'm thinking to another person means I have to explain it, you know, and it's not enough to be thinking about what I'm doing, I have to be able to explain it to another human, who gets what I'm about gets what I care about, and cares about the progress that I'm making is so impactful. Like, I actually did some digging into brain science to find out if this was like, anecdotal, or if it was like, actually a thing that happens. And I haven't exactly found the answer as to like, why that might be. But research definitely supports what I noticed, anecdotally, which is when you voice your plans, and and I share them with you, Laura, my achievement rate skyrockets, like, my ability to get that stuff done. way higher than stuff that I'm just thinking about. Yeah, and, and there's, I don't know why that happens. But it's nice to know that part of what's helping me succeed is actually just like, telling you about it. And that, that I'm doing that alone, has made me more successful.

Laura Russell  37:18

So going into the energetics of it, yeah, when you voice something out, you're more likely for it to come true and manifest it. Like if you think about in terms of spirituality, and yeah, and you know, I'm all about that. But like, you voicing it, and like it, it, it's like, whenever you voice it, you can feel into it. And be like, picturing yourself doing it?

Emily Carter  37:45

Yeah, you know, one of the things that I think is happening is I'm also taking notes, and there's a timeline in my brain, of when these things happen, or how they happen that I'm sometimes talking through with you, you know, like when that thing is going to be done. And, and it's not even about accountability, because even though it helps me to, to be accountable, and to know that I'm going to be following up with you about how, what progress I made or didn't make, I don't, it doesn't sting to admit that I didn't do it, you know, like, it's not, it's not like that kind of, of motivator for me. But there's something in the visualization, as I'm telling you about it, that I think really does impact my ability to follow through. And, and my ability to visualize myself actually doing those things. Because as I'm actually voicing it, I'm seeing pictures in my brain of like, what that actually will look like. And so yeah, I totally believe that it changes the the energetics behind it, and around it, right when you can, when you can visualize in that way. Hmm, that's very interesting. Leave it to me to put a woowoo spin. I love your moves, and I need more woowoo this is part of what is so great, too, about the fact that we we don't, we aren't perfectly in sync with each other's modes, and modalities. And I think that that has actually helped me grow in some really interesting ways and to embrace other modalities more readily. Because

Laura Russell  39:25

when we talk,

Emily Carter  39:27

it's like the layers of exposure. Right? And, and having someone like you to bounce those ideas off of, has been has been so good for not just my business but also for like for like my soul to to be able to to have those moments with you. So I really thank you for that.

Laura Russell  39:47

Very welcome. Well, then, enjoyable on my part.

Emily Carter  39:53

Glad I'm so glad. I just think you know having a business bestie is I think one of those areas of support that I didn't realize how truly magnificently powerful that would be. And so for folks who are feeling like they need more support, or in some of the business groups I'm in, I am shocked, like really shocked at how some of these women business owners have partners who are completely unsupportive of the business that they're building completely and entirely, and think that they should stop doing it. And I can't imagine working through that, like, I can't imagine trying to pursue something where there's somebody standing next to somebody who I love and care about and presumably loves and cares about me, telling me that I shouldn't be doing this thing that I love, and have high ambitions for. And so if you're not getting that support from those folks, that's when this other these other communities of support become even more essential, and more important for you to to have and having a business bestie I think is one way that you can ameliorate the impact of having unsupportive, like actively unsupportive folks around you.

Laura Russell  41:14

So if I could, if I could jump in,

Emily Carter  41:16


Laura Russell  41:19

Be open to the process of finding one. So I have attempted accountability partners with so many people, oh, we all have, right. We just don't even know so many people. And they all serve their purpose for a time. But like they've never lasted this long amount of time, and been as beneficial as this one is. And going back to that growth mindset, you have to be able to be open to keep trying. Mm hmm. Just because you have those those maybe relationships, and those accountability, partnerships, that maybe don't go the distance, don't shut yourself down from the next opportunity where you may click with someone and you're like, Oh, my God, this is my person. Like, be open to it.

Emily Carter  42:20

I love that. And just see ya, you know, it's, it's a little light, I think of it a little like, like how I would think about dating, right? Yes. And, yes, you might be surprised. Like, I think if I were on a dating app, I'm not sure that I would have swiped Laura in the right direction. No, right. And by the vice versa is probably also true for you. I

Laura Russell  42:47

was a mess when Emily met.

Emily Carter  42:52

We've we've all been hot messes at some point during the last couple of years, right? Like so much has happened. So much to process. So much is constantly changing. And we haven't figured out how to navigate the impact that living through a pandemic has on you. Even though I feel like we are moving towards something that's emerging, it hasn't emerged yet. And it's this really weird space of navigating uncertainty that, that we're in. And I'm just really grateful that I had you to help me navigate it. Because there were definitely some, some low points and for myself, since since we met that you helped me navigate really, really well. And I just cannot stress to the folks listening enough that if you haven't found your business bestie and you're really longing for one, to just like continue to be opening to that connection, like Laura said, because you just can't know how you're going to click until you try it.

Laura Russell  44:04

And sometimes the universe God whatever knows more than what you do. And knows what you need more than you what you may know. Yeah, like in partnerships. Yeah.

Emily Carter  44:18

I love that. So Laura, what is next for you and your business? So what's new and coming down the pipeline for you lots of

Laura Russell  44:27

goodness. As Emily knows. So I have been working on something for actively for the last year. But it's been in development in my life for a very long time. Because I'm incorporating all of the things that I've learned in corporate doing change management, project management, all of those things, along with all the learnings that I've from my life Hmm, as well as my coach training, and my coaching, and it is called the radical self care system.

Emily Carter  45:08

So excited about

Laura Russell  45:09

this. And it is meant to change how we think about and do not only self care, but like taking care of all parts of ourselves, heart, mind, body and soul. And it is meant to meet you where you're at. So it's like, there's not a one size fits all. So different offerings intended to help you wherever you're at on your self development journey. So it'll be one that some one on one some group, some self paced, just different ways,

Emily Carter  45:49

different opportunities, if we're not heading on what modality you need in the moment.

Laura Russell  45:54

Correct, and where you're at, and just what you need. I love that somebody may need to work one on one with me because they need a little bit more of a one on one touch. And somebody may need just a workbook that they can work through and be like, Okay, now I'm clear. I got it. That's all I needed. Mm hmm. I got you.

Emily Carter  46:14

I love it. I'm excited for that. And we'll put some information in the show notes around how you can get in touch with Laura and explore that with her. So one of the questions so I, one of my favorite humans, Mia Francis Poulan, who runs the coffee house, she had this question that I thought was so so good. And, and so I'm going to ask it to you as well, what's keeping you going right now what's nourishing you and keeping you moving in the direction you want to go?

Laura Russell  46:46

First of all, aren't we are our weekly sessions, as we've just discussed about, but really learning how to rest and play. And doing business in a different way. That feels more open and flowy. And incorporating myself into it. I'm one of the masterminds, it's like I get paid to be me. That's that's keeping me going. Trying to, to really blend, work in life. And resting and playing inside of it.

Emily Carter  47:37

So important, so important. I love that, Laura, thank you. Where can people soak up more of your brilliance.

Laura Russell  47:45

So if you go to Instagram, you can find me at joyful uprising. You can also find me at www dot the joyful uprising.com I will actually be having an updated website coming in the next couple of weeks. So that will be incorporating the radical self care stuff because it is new. I would love if you would join my newsletter. It is radical self care notes. And I promise not to blast you every single day. So that's great. Hi, me.

Emily Carter  48:27

Laura. Thank you so so much for being here today and talking through all of the pieces of your business and, and being a business bestie. With me. I just am so thrilled that we got to have this conversation and got to share a little bit behind the curtain of our businesses today. Hey, I bet you thought that this podcast was over. Well, Laura and I were chatting right after recording the bulk of this interview, and she had something that I thought was so important to share. So I wanted to drop that in here at the very end for you. There you go. So what were you saying again, about taking those small steps?

Laura Russell  49:11

Yeah, so taking those small actions I mentioned before that it's billed as your courage muscle. So one of the things that happened to me is, like last October, I started taking a lot of small actions, I started really focusing on building up my business hadn't been doing it. And I got challenged by my one of my coaches and was like, what if you really could actually be a full time coach in the next year? And I was like, I can't so it's pointless, and they're like, no, what if you really could what would that be like? And so I started actually, like, taking actions writing down goals in order to figure out how much would it be if I if I if I could leave my job to be a full time coach? What would that be like? So I started taking those actions in order to do that. I started, I recorded it out, I wrote it, recorded it and listened to it every day. For two weeks, I woke up one morning, and there was a planner for my director that said, restructure. And they let me go. I've been at this company for 17 years. And I was no longer relevant majority of my team. So the whole thing that I started coaching was because 75% of my team was like go, I then four years later became one of those people. That was let go, yeah, had I not been taking those small actions, and been putting myself into the mindset of, I can do this. And this is what it will look like. I would have been, I would have had flipped out. And I would have just taught gone and tried to find a new job, instead of taking the leap into Oh, the thing that I've been saying I wanted to do for the last four years, is finally here. And I have the guts to go after it and to put my all in for as long as I can. Because let me just tell you the number that I wrote down, and I know this is kind of like going all over the place. I wrote a number down of the amount it would take for me to leave my job 60k That was the amount of my severance package.

Emily Carter  51:40

Wow, if that wasn't a sign pushing you in this direction, 

Laura Russell  51:46

I will or you will be an idiot. If you did not do this. This is God's saying it is your time to step into it. Had I not been taking those actions and putting myself into the frame that mindset? No way in hell would I have done it? I'd have been like wouldn't have known what that number was. And I would not have known what that number was. You would have missed the sign. Right. Now. There's my little manifesting take small actions story.

Emily Carter  52:16

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